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Only ROS TOYLOR can express my OMGWTF at this episode
My oh-so-composed thoughts on the latest episode of Doctor Who:
WHAT
WHAT
WHAT THE HELL WAS UP WITH THAT ENDING, TENNANT'S SIGNED ON FOR THE SPECIALS....RIGHT? RIGHT?
Seriously, there is no size of text to encompass my sense of WTF about that ending. Gwen and Ianto defending the Hub against Daleks, Sarah Jane on the verge of extermination, and THE DOCTOR REGENERATING, WTF
On the plus side, the Doctor and Rose have been reunited! And Rose is back to seeming like herself, after the harder, scarier Rose of "Turn Left" (her frustration at Wilf's lack of a "naughty" webcam to patch her in was so characteristic, as was her jealousy of Martha and her challenge to the two electronics store looters). Also everyone's together, in spirit if not in body. However, THEY EXTERMINATED HARRIET JONES, NOOOOOOOO. At least she died nobly, and introducing herself to the very end! And I think this season has proved Harriet right and the Doctor wrong with regards to the events of "The Christmas Invasion" (even setting aside the whole "deposing Harriet may have paved the way for the Master to come to power" thing). While I DO think there will be something they manage to pull off so that David Tennant remains the Doctor (unless he changes back into Paul McGann now that the Time War's been un-timelocked, lol), there would be something poetic about his first actions in this regeneration eventually bringing about the downfall of that same regeneration.
The "space Facebook" companion conference call was just generally pretty awesome...Jack hitting on Sarah Jane (and her being all flattered and girlish about it), Sarah Jane introducing Luke to the Doctor, Donna eyeing up Jack (and being warned off by the Doctor), Rose being jealous of Martha, Sylvia not letting Wilf buy a webcam because they're "naughty," Gwen oohing at the Doctor and Ianto being sulky, all the Harriet stuff, etc.
On the Donna front, apparently she still has something on her back, which worries me. Also the lady consoled her on her loss yet to come, which to my mind means either she, Wilf or Sylvia is going to die; and as craptastic as Sylvia can be, even her death would make me really sad just because it would make Wilf and Sylvia sad. Similarly, Wilf going at Daleks with a paintball gun (though the fact that he out-brazens ACE, who at least had explosives, makes me happy...Wilf needs to be s5 companion, y/y) makes me worry he'll die through some noble but impulsive action. Really, the same goes for Donna, only her "Noble" action is even predicted in her last name. Things are not looking good for the Noble/Mott family, sorry to say.
We got some nice brief appearances: Luke, Gwen and Ianto were all awesome as usual (and the crack about Mr. Smith's fanfare was quality, heh), and Francine was unexpected. Also apparently Mr. Copper from "Voyage of the Damned" put together the subwave network, awwww. I just wish that Richard Dawkins' appearance had included his wife (for those of you who don't know, she's Lalla Ward, who played the Fourth Doctor's companion Romana II; it would have made for some nice, um, meta-something-or-other).
And then finally, Davros and everybody else. Just from this episode, Davros seems the scariest he's been since Genesis of the Daleks, which can only be a good thing. Dalek Caan is ridiculously creepy, because DALEKS SHOULD NOT HAVE HIGH-PITCHED EMOTIONAL INSANE VOICES, IT'S JUST WRONG. The Shadow Proclamation seemed interesting, and I'm betting they'll reappear next week.
Also bees are aliens, heh. XD
Other expectations/wishes for next week: a final resolution to the Time War (which will basically involve bringing Gallifrey back, as I think experience has shown us that the Daleks will NEVER be extinct, they're too iconic), the Doctor and Rose getting a chance to really talk (something more than OH HAI THAR, OMGWTFBBQ UNEXPECTED DOCTOR REGENERATION), the Doctor hearing about Harriet's sacrifice and feeling at least a LITTLE guilt (why does the Doctor only feel guilt about the things he HASN'T actually done wrong), Rose and Marfa meeting, Sarah Jane NOT BEING EXTERMINATED PLZKTHX, and Donna somehow saving the Doctor's current regeneration (she IS Super-Temp, after all).
Also I think looking at the credits of this episode shows us RTD's propensity for reusing names: we had Martha and Francine Jones, Harriet Jones, and Ianto Jones. (And next week, of course, we'll have Sarah Jane and Luke Smith and Mickey Smith.)
Oh, and the list of planets made me happy, too. Clom from Love and Monsters (the sister planet to *deep breath* Raxacoricofallapatorius)? Woman Wept, which I hear comes from one of the novels? Calufrax Minor (from the old-school story The Pirate Planet)? :D
Edit: Ooh, someone mentioned that Donna hearing a heartbeat in the Shadow Proclamation would lend itself to the idea of a fobwatched Gallifreyan Donna (hearing the other heart or summat). :o
Also did anyone else hear the rhythm when Harriet was using the subwave network to hail folks? Sounded like a certain set of drums (which is why I thought at first it'd be the Archangel network).
Also who is "the threefold man"? If the finale ends up being a multi-Doctor story with Eight, Nine and Ten I will forgive Russell T. Davies anything up to and including "Fear Her." XD
...is it can be next Saturday nao? ;_;
WHAT
WHAT
WHAT THE HELL WAS UP WITH THAT ENDING, TENNANT'S SIGNED ON FOR THE SPECIALS....RIGHT? RIGHT?
Seriously, there is no size of text to encompass my sense of WTF about that ending. Gwen and Ianto defending the Hub against Daleks, Sarah Jane on the verge of extermination, and THE DOCTOR REGENERATING, WTF
On the plus side, the Doctor and Rose have been reunited! And Rose is back to seeming like herself, after the harder, scarier Rose of "Turn Left" (her frustration at Wilf's lack of a "naughty" webcam to patch her in was so characteristic, as was her jealousy of Martha and her challenge to the two electronics store looters). Also everyone's together, in spirit if not in body. However, THEY EXTERMINATED HARRIET JONES, NOOOOOOOO. At least she died nobly, and introducing herself to the very end! And I think this season has proved Harriet right and the Doctor wrong with regards to the events of "The Christmas Invasion" (even setting aside the whole "deposing Harriet may have paved the way for the Master to come to power" thing). While I DO think there will be something they manage to pull off so that David Tennant remains the Doctor (unless he changes back into Paul McGann now that the Time War's been un-timelocked, lol), there would be something poetic about his first actions in this regeneration eventually bringing about the downfall of that same regeneration.
The "space Facebook" companion conference call was just generally pretty awesome...Jack hitting on Sarah Jane (and her being all flattered and girlish about it), Sarah Jane introducing Luke to the Doctor, Donna eyeing up Jack (and being warned off by the Doctor), Rose being jealous of Martha, Sylvia not letting Wilf buy a webcam because they're "naughty," Gwen oohing at the Doctor and Ianto being sulky, all the Harriet stuff, etc.
On the Donna front, apparently she still has something on her back, which worries me. Also the lady consoled her on her loss yet to come, which to my mind means either she, Wilf or Sylvia is going to die; and as craptastic as Sylvia can be, even her death would make me really sad just because it would make Wilf and Sylvia sad. Similarly, Wilf going at Daleks with a paintball gun (though the fact that he out-brazens ACE, who at least had explosives, makes me happy...Wilf needs to be s5 companion, y/y) makes me worry he'll die through some noble but impulsive action. Really, the same goes for Donna, only her "Noble" action is even predicted in her last name. Things are not looking good for the Noble/Mott family, sorry to say.
We got some nice brief appearances: Luke, Gwen and Ianto were all awesome as usual (and the crack about Mr. Smith's fanfare was quality, heh), and Francine was unexpected. Also apparently Mr. Copper from "Voyage of the Damned" put together the subwave network, awwww. I just wish that Richard Dawkins' appearance had included his wife (for those of you who don't know, she's Lalla Ward, who played the Fourth Doctor's companion Romana II; it would have made for some nice, um, meta-something-or-other).
And then finally, Davros and everybody else. Just from this episode, Davros seems the scariest he's been since Genesis of the Daleks, which can only be a good thing. Dalek Caan is ridiculously creepy, because DALEKS SHOULD NOT HAVE HIGH-PITCHED EMOTIONAL INSANE VOICES, IT'S JUST WRONG. The Shadow Proclamation seemed interesting, and I'm betting they'll reappear next week.
Also bees are aliens, heh. XD
Other expectations/wishes for next week: a final resolution to the Time War (which will basically involve bringing Gallifrey back, as I think experience has shown us that the Daleks will NEVER be extinct, they're too iconic), the Doctor and Rose getting a chance to really talk (something more than OH HAI THAR, OMGWTFBBQ UNEXPECTED DOCTOR REGENERATION), the Doctor hearing about Harriet's sacrifice and feeling at least a LITTLE guilt (why does the Doctor only feel guilt about the things he HASN'T actually done wrong), Rose and Marfa meeting, Sarah Jane NOT BEING EXTERMINATED PLZKTHX, and Donna somehow saving the Doctor's current regeneration (she IS Super-Temp, after all).
Also I think looking at the credits of this episode shows us RTD's propensity for reusing names: we had Martha and Francine Jones, Harriet Jones, and Ianto Jones. (And next week, of course, we'll have Sarah Jane and Luke Smith and Mickey Smith.)
Oh, and the list of planets made me happy, too. Clom from Love and Monsters (the sister planet to *deep breath* Raxacoricofallapatorius)? Woman Wept, which I hear comes from one of the novels? Calufrax Minor (from the old-school story The Pirate Planet)? :D
Edit: Ooh, someone mentioned that Donna hearing a heartbeat in the Shadow Proclamation would lend itself to the idea of a fobwatched Gallifreyan Donna (hearing the other heart or summat). :o
Also did anyone else hear the rhythm when Harriet was using the subwave network to hail folks? Sounded like a certain set of drums (which is why I thought at first it'd be the Archangel network).
Also who is "the threefold man"? If the finale ends up being a multi-Doctor story with Eight, Nine and Ten I will forgive Russell T. Davies anything up to and including "Fear Her." XD
...is it can be next Saturday nao? ;_;
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THAT WAS SOME SERIOUSLY FUCKING KICK-ASS TELEVISION, MOTHERFUCKER!
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OMG, waiting for this week was bad enough but OMG what is going to happen next?
I don't know about retconning the whole time war thing, that would be kind of lame in my personal opinion.
Though I can see Donna ending really being a Time Lord or something along those lines, something is up with her.
I really really really hope the Doctor doesn't regenerate into someone new. I would be like OMFG! pissed.
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And I'm still weepy about Harriet Jones. :`(
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Also it seems David Tennant has signed on for the actual fifth season but I can't find any real info on it, so it may not be true. I hope it is I loves me the David. He is so full of squee!
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Pretty sure it's true. Here are some hawtpix of DT filming the next Christmas special, apparently, with that dude from Basic Instinct 2: The Basic Instincting: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-561218/David-Morrissey-star-Doctor-Who-Christmas-special-featuring-deadly-Cybermen.html
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Yeah, except apparently David Morrissey's trailer is labeled "The Other Doctor." I'd LIKE to think that the BBC wouldn't have Tennant on set just for shits and giggles, to mislead spoiler whores into thinking Tennant was staying when he's really regenerating into Morrissey (er, David, that is), but I know RTD was kind of bummed that the whole Eccleston/Tennant switchover was spoiled so early...I wouldn't put it past him entirely. Or, as folks have brought up, the specials next year might be flashback ones starring Tennant.
I'm inclined to think not - I imagine this is probably a fakeout. But still, there's a large part of me that just wonders, y'know? WHY IS SATURDAY NOT HERE YET.
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Womanwept
(Anonymous) 2008-06-29 06:26 am (UTC)(link)Re: Womanwept
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Everyone has major hate for Fear Her, exactly what happened in that episode? XD
Sarah Jones and Donna should have their own show y/y
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Also indispensable - http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Who_Wiki
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Sarah Jones and Donna should have their own show together XD
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Sarah Jane Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Jane_Smith) was a companion of the Fourth Doctor (who was the goggly-eyes-and-scarf one you saw in Image of the Fendahl) back in the 70s, and early in season 2 of the new series she met up with the Doctor again, and has since gotten her own spinoff, the Sarah Jane Adventures. (You can see young Sarah Jane in my LJ icon with the Fourth Doctor and Harry Sullivan.)
Stephen Hawking Dalek guy is Davros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros), who first appeared in 1975's Genesis of the Daleks (also coincidentally a Four, Harry and Sarah Jane story, which is why she knew him). He's basically Dalek Hitler - he's the megalomaniacal creator of the Daleks, and you might want to watch Genesis just to see how that all starts (it's also one of the best stories of Old Who PERIOD, so again, worth a watch).
The Shadow Proclamation has pretty much just been mentioned a lot in New Who, but mostly this season...it's something that usually gets referenced when the Doctor is facing an alien baddie and tries to go the diplomatic route first.
Harriet Jones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Jones) first appeared in S1 of the new series, as an MP of a tiny constituency who ends up helping the Doctor and Rose fight off a plan by the Slitheen to destroy Earth (and blew up 10 Downing Street in the process). She reappeared again immediately after the Doctor regenerated into Ten, and was sneakily deposed by the Doctor for blowing up an alien ship in a way that he didn't agree with. She has the idiosyncracy of always introducing herself; it started when she was just the MP for Flydale North, a tiny little place, but she's continued it even once she's Prime Minister and former PM, and the inevitable response is "yes, we know who you are." XD
Also, "Fear Her" is a S2 ep that is just god-awful...the guest cast displays horrific acting skills (especially the kid actor who plays a large part), the plot makes no sense, etc. It's the only ep of New Who (really, of Who period so far) that I've actively disliked.
Also, re: SJS and Donna, of course the answer is Y. XD
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